NOt necessarily. My father, who has used various flavers of Windows and the Macintosh, immediately new where to click the first time he saw Gnome when I installed fC1 almost a year ago. He knew that FC1 was a redhat product, so he guessed, and guessed corectly, that clicking on the hat would get him into the gnome menu, based on the Apple in the macintosh. Thanks, Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 10:02 AM Subject: Re: x and gnopernicus One thing I learned to my chagrin some time ago is that many, I dare say most, sighted users are initially very uncomfortable around the Linux GUI. They expect to see certain things based on their experience of Windows, and those things aren't there on Linux. For example, there's no "start" button. And, who would guess to click on "the foot?" I don't have an answer, but it is a problem to be noted. Kenny Hitt writes: > Hi. Did you try using alt-f2 to open the run dialog? Is the sighted > user helping you a Gnome user? I have to ask because there isn't an > icon label applications on my Debian systems. To access the > applications menu, you click on the Gnome foot icon. That icon is > usually on a pannel instead of your desktop. > I still do admin tasks from the text console instead of a Gnome session. > I could probably do some things in Gnome, but speakup is better access > and faster. > > Hope this helps. > Kenny > > On Mon, Jan 03, 2005 at 11:07:19AM -0500, Eric Kosten wrote: > > Dear list members: > > It was suggested to me that I consult with Kenny Hitt on this. > > Kenny, or anyone else, I some how messed up the root desktop so that > > according to a sighted friend, three icons appear roots home, computer, and > > recycled. He does not see the application menu to select run program and > > thus gnopernicus. We also had to enable assistive technology items here. I > > should add that it worked the first time, when we logged out we said "save > > setting equaled choice of yes". > > Now, I created another user, logged in, enabled assistive technology, > > and ran gnopernicus. Now, the admin tools freezes things for quite awhile > > but I can't tell if they come up. by admin, if memery serves me, server > > tools like http, task manager etc. > > Need help fixing root account, and this seemingly problem/not a problem > > thing. > > thanks > > Eric (someone who reads a lot on linux and is still trying to figure it out) > > p.s. speakup is running during this time providing terminal e.g. consul > > speech. > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) janina at freestandards.org http://a11y.org If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem. _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
