Hi, Another word on the Enterprise Linux front. You will absolutely need to use the braille support for the install or get sighted assistance, RH will not be supplying Speakup-modified CDs anytime soon it seems. I also suspect that given how EL is marketed that they'd also take a dim view of anyone trying to make such publically available. Or perhaps not, I could be doing them a disservice but since the strength of RHEL is its commonality then specialist versions don't really fit into that mould. I had RHEL 3 on a machine here at home until a few months ago and once installed via sighted help getting a Speakup-supporting kernel wasn't too difficult. It did require more hand-patching and a few source changes from memory but it was maybe half an hours work at most. The amusing thing though was that after building and installing the kernel I kept getting messages from up2date telling me I wasn't running a stock kernel and that I better be careful making such a decision lest I hurt myself. So Speakup will work on a RHEL kernel but you need ask yourself what you want RHEL for. If it's because you want an extremely solid platform with a long lifespan and sensibly managed updates then go for it. If the driver is more to use RHEL as a platform for a commercial package that is certified on the OS then with the custom kernel you probably just blew that out of the water and the 3rd party vendor will likely only take support calls if any problems are replicated on stock RHEL kernel packages. I do like RHEL but am no longer using it at home. Not because of any problems with it, more that a recent overseas move caused a 50% puter fatality rate and RHEL hasn't made its way back into the rebuilding network so far... Regards, Garry -- Garry Turkington garry.turkington at kycor.org.uk