Sure Greg I'll try. The cvs repository/server is on bumpy or now nondescript.ca. I currently have it set to send mail upon check in to cvs at braille.uwo.ca. The problem is it sends the mail from the user doing the check in such as kirk at nondescript.ca. The problem is that nondescript.ca does not handle mail itself. It is all forwarded to another machine which folks that have check in privileges do not have accounts on. Furthermore they would also need to have their xxx at nondescript.ca addresses added to the cvs mailing list and because bumpy doesn't handle mail itself they could never receive the confirmation requests and so forth. I do not want to have general mail running on that machine because as you probably know it is extremely over worked as it is. If we could get cvs to send all checkins from one address that would work but I haven't had the time to look into how that might be done. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061