Hi Steve: We cannot maintain compatability between speakup with the new 2.6.12 kernels and the old kernels because of major console changes in the kernel. For that reason the speakup-2.0 tar ball is the definitive answer for 2.4.xx kernels and kernels before the 2.6.12 release. I will no longer be supporting any kernels prior to 2.6.12 and have already started ripping out 2.4.xx support. I just made the first check in to cvs in the past three months so you should have received a cvs update earlier this afternoon. The link between cvs and the mailing list is very unstable and I'd like to find a better way to do automatic mail outs of cvs changes but am not sure how to do that just yet. Ideas are welcome. CVS will probably be quite a hit and miss over the short term. I am adding code in submitted by the folks at APH and am starting to to some long overdue clean-ups and extensions. I will try to not check in broken code but sometimes that's hard to avoid if I just plain miss something. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061