On 4/30/05, Janina Sajka <janina at rednote.net> wrote: > I have a hard time conceivingg of a kernel based access as "stand > alone." > > Still, but really tickles me is that you mention Speakup in the same > breath with JAWS, and you even mention it first. > > Seems we've arrived. :p well sorry. the speakup/jaws thing is pretty funny though, i work more with jaws than anything else, you'd think i'd mention it first. hehe. and david: you can get older Macs that can run tiger, but it's going to run pretty slowly. and the up-to-date thing only works if you bought it during a certain period of time from apple or an apple certified reseller. cheers jane