I retrieved the CVS version of speechd-up and installed the various components it needed. This is a Debian environment, and I am still finding things I need to install from time to time. But the compile failed with a problem I can't figure out. I did this: ./build.sh, it ran okay. ./configure, that too ran okay. make and I get a problem in main.c, line 421, where it tells me "PIDPATH is not defined, first use in this function, etc. The source statement is an "if" that tries to compare VIDPATH (all caps) to a null string, but evidently there ain't any PIDPATH. What have I overlooked? Thanks, Chuck -- The Moon is Waxing Gibbous (99% of Full) "Things are in the saddle, and they ride mankind." Ralph Waldo Emerson Visit my download site at http://www.mhcable.com/~chuckh