Hi, I orderd and installed and updated the fedora core 3 cd set from cheapbytes thanks! for offering threw cheapbytes. I added a normal user account called "nick" with the adduser command and everything worked fine. When I exit from it I get the message kill 308 operation not permited and then the logout message. This does not happen with root only with normal accounts. Also, I noticed that when I type a capital letter my dectalk express on com1 speaks the letter in a higher pitch which I want but then speaks everything else in a lower voice then normal, I have to turn the unit off then back on to restore normal speaking settings. What is the latest kernel version for speakup fedora core 3 and where can I download it as well as the kernel source for this version? Also, How do I start gnopernicus or orca with the default synthsizer if I configure my sound card with alsamixer then save my settings with alsactl? My system is setup in runlevel 5. bye My web page is at http://www.nickgawronski.com