Sorry, granted a lot of this has gotten off center with all of janina's needless chattering. first, the server that hosts my site has a Linux shell base to it, using the red hat distribution which I know has a different name now. You pointed out before when we were discussing du that shellworld too uses a Linux element to its foundation, and many of the programs here are Linux based and the services is advertised to some as a Linux shell. Thus my description. I am not going to archive so from your explanation, i will not need tar. so rsynch will accomplish a copy of the data here save for the mail in my inbox at the time of the transfer? now am I more on point? Karen On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, Luke Davis wrote: > On Mon, 27 Sep 2004, Karen Lewellen wrote: > >> As i said I have no intention of zipping anything, so if i understand >> this i > > and as I said, that seems a strange fobia. Regardless, however-- > >> should be able to do the following. >> a, create a directory on the server where my site resides, which too is a >> Linux based server let's call it backup. > > What do you mean, "which too"? If we are talking about Shellworld, it is not > Linux, in any way, shape, or form. > >> b, from my shellworld home prompt run sftp or tar or one of the other ftp >> based transfer programs and copy the contents of my home directory to >> the so created directory on my website server? > > tar is not a transfer program. It is an archival tool. > > Tar takes several files, and copies them into one large file. It stands for > "tape archiver", and was originally used for exactly that purpose. > For example, if you did: > > cd ~/ > tar --exclude ~/mail -cf /tmp/karen_backup.tar ../ > > Will copy your entire home directory, excepting the mail directory which > contains your saved messages, into a contiguous archive, in the file > /tmp/karen_backup.tar. That file may then be moved to another server or the > like. > > Better, would be to compress it using gzip, or, still better, bzip2, and then > transfer it, using sftp, rsync, ftp, ncftp, or some transfer program. > >> I do not want to have to specify, so if this does mean i must coy over >> mail and the like so be it. frankly it might not be so bad an idea given >> the folders in that area too. > > To copy in the way you suggest, a transfer using rsync, is probably the best > option. > >> What say you, do I understand the process correctly? > > Parts of it, yes. Other parts, not so much. > > Luke > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >