Well Terry, you are absolutely right. First of all Karen could use dosemu while in linux. Gee, I wish I could better run that? Next, you see that the first 2 years I was running DOS, I was just typing commands. I had very little idea what they meant or how you use them in other areas. Well, then in 1995 I got a shell account, but I knew nothing about unix. I actually thought it should be declared a swear-word. I feel much differently today. Last October 2 friends installed linux--and certainly the machine is lots more stable than the every other day crashes in windows. Sure I still have plenty of outstanding issues, but basicly I would love to find a live interactive linux class where I can learn the basics--and eventually configure-and-installing programs, without as much handholding. A live instructor would be the best Thanks from Southern Cal Hart