Hi Ernst, I am still not quite clear on a number of issues you metnioned but didn't clarify them: If speakup was mentioned in the /var/log/messages file did it indicate it was probing for any synth? What was the synth it said it was probing for? You also said you build the Apolo and softsynth as modules did they get loaded? How did they get loaded? You must load modules with either the echo synth_module >/proc/speakup/synth_name method or the modprobe speakup_synthmane method which did you use? Did you specify a default synth at compile time? Which synth was it? You see although you gave us some information it was not enough to make any inteligent guess at what you did let alone what went wrong. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061