well, I've just emailed to at least check into it; I see nothing wrong with checking out new info. I checked out freedombox, for which I pay, and which is not GPL, and I am for the most part very happy with it. for one thing, i can grocery shop online now, which I was not able to do with any other linux tools. It doesn't support braille either and that could be an issue for some people, but I see no reason to dismiss it outright for that reason. as for it only working with ie for blind people, that may or may not be true and I intend to find out. Getting the facts is always better than making decisions based on assumption. Everybody has to make their own choices with these issues, but I see no harm in getting all the facts and then making one's own decision as to the usability and appropriateness of what's offered. -- Cheryl "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."