Yes, it is all those things, but other bad sides are that it is most likely not accessible with other than ie that is accessible to blind folk, doesn't support braille from what I can tell meaning that you have to depend on the audio portion. I can see a bunch of ways to further accessibility other than through this avenue. Johnnie Apple Seed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Parsons" <akp@xxxxxxxxx> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 12:06 PM Subject: Re: Fw: Calling non Windows users Hi Janina, Um, might I bring the old Fossil up-to-date on the Ivocalize software, please? Ivocalize is a web based chat client which is currently being used by Talking Communities, The OPAL and Mid-Illinois Talking book Library, Access Technology Institute, EASI, and others. It is being used most often as a lecture/teaching tool because this particular client has several advantages over Speakfreely. First, not only is this client web based, but because it *is* web based, it is not usually prone to difficulties with firewalls. Most firewalls allow port 80 to be open. Second, the client has text chat. Speak Freely has text chat, but you can't do anything else with it. Ivocalize allows one to record sessions so that not only do you get the audio but you also get the text chat which is automatically synchronized with the audio chat, a DAISY, effect. In addition, because the client is web based, one can "push" web pages. this means that if one is teaching or lecturing online at a presentation, you can place web based content for your students/attendees to view simultaneously with your audio and your text chat. This includes power point slides and so on. BTW, when the session is recorded, the web content is also recorded and synchronized with the audio and the text chat. All aspects of this client are accessible, both server maintinence and user interface. Moderators have control over the client even to having the ability of adjusting the volume of individual attendees so that it can be heard by all. The *only* drawback of this client is that it is not available in Linux. Believe me, Janina, this is an extreme plus, that Talking Communities is doing this! Now, as for the cost, well, Janina, my only response to that is that George Buys saw a good thing going and promoted it. He has now got clients for his product who are using it and benefitting from it. If he is charging for the service, it's a free country. I dunnow about the GPL aspects of this thing. *That* I haven't explored, but I will. Does this clarify? Ann P. -- Ann K. Parsons email: akp at eznet.net WEB SITE: http://home.eznet.net/~akp "All that is gold does not glitter. Not all those who wander are lost." JRRT _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup