Terry writes > As for "effortless editing", I find that with the cvs speakup and emacs, editing is quite effortless. I guess I thought that everyone used emacsspeak. The blinux FAQ sort of implies that. I wasn't asking about favorite editors the same way newbies ask about whhich distro was best. I was asking, as I kind of know several UNIX editors and I don't want to waste time mastering one that causes problems with speakup. So are people saying then, that there's nothing I can adjust on my console; that my only choice is to upgrade speakup. I was hoping to avoid this until I learned a little more. --Debee