from what I see, the debian packages for speech-dispatcher don't have the spd-say command in them and I got everything I could think of relating to speech-dispatcher installed that came from the debian archives. ok I'll look for this error log message and see if it happens when I run the script here. I just did a fresh install here because I absolutely broke my system a few days ago and decided to reinstall rather than try to fix it which incidentally I did which in turn broke it more. lol. go figure. -- Shaun Oliver "I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person." email: shaun.oliver at optusnet.com.au WEB: http://blindman.homelinux.org/~blindman/ IRC: irc.awesomechat.net:6666 IRCNICK: blindman