speakup and cedpstral I realize that speakup and speech-dispatcher are two different programs, but they have to work together, don't they? I don't think you can use cepstral with speakup and without Speech dispatcher. But I imagine you do need to know which program's issues you are dealing with. will look further at the speech Dispatcher documentation and info. Have debuging on so will be looking at that. Thanks. -- Cheryl "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."