I am a good example of what he is talking about. I learned the Linux shell in order to create a server, which I am extremely happy with. I still use Windows for most things and will continue to do so until Linux GUI equals Windows, or at least comes close. Current Linux shell is hard to use if blanks are in file names and so on and on and on. It is really like using a big modern DOS. A note like this will likely start a flame war, but so be it. Linux can't let the world go by and leave all blind people on a shell. It didn't work in Dos and Windows, and it won't hold in Linux either. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom and Esther Ward" <tward1978@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 6:54 AM Subject: Re: linux and accessibility applications Hi. I realize that most of Linux users love the shell, but there is a reason for the curren trends to add accessibility to the GUI, java swing, and other GUI based stuff. First, that is the way in which 99% of all sighted users operate, and one way or another staying at the shell prompt will restrict us equal access to flagship applications. Second, the large majority of disabled computer users have grown in to Windows, and those I've asked will not even try Linux until something like the Gnome accessibility project matures enough that is equal with Jaws and Windows. So in the end there is nothing silly in the trend at all, but we can only have something else to gain. What we do with it will end up being decided by personal preference. Hth. _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup __________ NOD32 1.695 (20040326) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 Antivirus System. http://www.nod32.com