> the problem with that is try getting developers to do it. Yeah, I never said it would happen or is realistic, but I think the trend right now is kind of silly (adding accessibility to GUI). For example, in Java, adding accessibility to swing is kind of strange IMO. Swing is a huge set of GUI classes. Its the last things I'd want to use to write accessible applications. I've been brainstorming some ideas since I am writing a driver for viavoice. My current thinking is that the shell is how the user interfaces to the computer, and a shell designed for speech would be a whole lot better than GUI adapted to accessibility. -- Doug