ah, my mistake, or my speech, i take it that xwindows does not work with speakup then? Karen On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Ryan Mann wrote: > They weren't saying that Word Perfect for Linux required Windows. They > were saying that it required Xwindows. Xwindows is a graphical user > interface for Linux. > > On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > > Now you have me a touch worried. > > One of the things i was looking forward to in Linux, a > > way to demonstrate its advantages over windows to > > companies for whom I work was word processing. > > Granted I do not use wordperfect 5.1, but 6.1 and later still in dos on > > this machine. > > I knew that there was a wordperfect for Linux out there, and am > > surprised that this requires windows. > > with more and more companies seeing the > > light where Microsoft is concerned, > > it may be worth suggesting to the project > > to consider revamping that already existing > > Linux edition for Linux only use. > > It is just not piratical in an office or even home office > > environment to use code instead of a program designed for this. > > in my opinion at least. > > Karen > > > > On Sat, 20 Mar 2004, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote: > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > Hi Shane, > > > > > > There are "front ends" to TeX that simplify things somewhat, such > > > as latex and amstex. The latter is used by mathematicians, and > > > the American Mathematical Society (hence AMS-tex) has made it the > > > official tool for authors. > > > > > > No doubt that WP is easier for many things, but that convenience > > > comes at the cost, as you point out, of keeping a Windows box > > > around just for that purpose. It also comes at the cost of > > > locking your source documents into a proprietary format that > > > requires others to obtain a compatible processor to work with > > > your files. > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > On Fri, 19 Mar 2004, Shane Wegner wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 07:57:55PM -0500, Chuck Hallenbeck wrote: > > > > > Lots of folks seem to be missing Word Perfect 5.1 pretty badly. I was > > > > > going to say they seem to pine for it, but that would be too bad!!! > > > > > > > > --- snip --- > > > > > > > > One of the only remaining reasons I continue to have a > > > > Windows box is word processing. You mention xml but afaik, > > > > xml doesn't know anything about fonts, emphasis, or even > > > > paragraphs. In order to get all that, you have to write in > > > > a format like DocBook where you have to put everything > > > > inside <para tags. That and pressing ctrl-b is a lot > > > > easier than writing <emphasis>my text here</emphasis>. Oh > > > > and not to forget <itemisedlist> for bullets etc. > > > > > > > > I'm no xml expert but doesn't changing fonts and sizes > > > > involve writing stylesheets for the document in question. > > > > Maybe tex simplifies all this, I have never looked at it > > > > but imo, word processing still has its place and I haven't > > > > come across a good console app yet. > > > > > > > > S > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - -- > > > The Moon is New > > > In a world without Fences or Walls no one needs Windows or Gates. > > > My home page is now at http://www.mhcable.com/~chuckh > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > > > > > > iQCVAwUBQFwhPDVdG8M9x9tGAQIlCwQAvDFXIdVNTn1QlSvSrlVKYluhTBXMfUCl > > > kNz/0Bkh/P9O/O7kKmZPpGAxrH9d7GFph1cF7fJy8wVbxBKsK7eVlEwl5nytkRrZ > > > c+WHEtboP3sjoJ6WowAprfbgxPIfri2CaMpAbqpy0XlmBLYJau5dW9r2ISu0IdS/ > > > K3U/uWtp4/Y= > > > =Z8q/ > > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >