But by default OS x doesn't have X on it. Sure you can run X on it, but the screen reader will only work with the native GUI - that is, with Carbon or Cocoa based apps. I love the Mac and have been working on it for a while now, but *not* because it is like Linux, but precisely because it is different, with its own advantages/disadvantages. Just as a total aside, you could run Gnome/Gnopernicus on OS x, but then you would only be able to use Gnome apps and not OS X apps, which IMHO defeats the objective. Saqib Shaikh