Hi If APMD locks the system up, it's probably a pretty good bet that ACPI wasn't even heard of when the machine was built. You could probably find out by putting ACPI in your kernel and looking at the output from dmesg, but if your laptop is more than four or five years old there won't be any ACPI on it. ACPI won't help in the case of automatically closing the lid and suspending, anyway, you have to set up linux software suspend for that which doesn't need acpi or apm. However, it's a real pain in the ass to set up, I still don't have it working quite right. Sometimes it works, sometimes I get "unable to handle kernel null pointer dereference" (anyone know what that means, by the way?) If you want to change the behavior of closing the lid with APM, you need to do it from your bios. HTH On Sun, 20 Jun 2004, Steve Holmes wrote: SH> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- SH> Hash: SHA1 SH> SH> I'm kinda new to this APM/ACPI stuff but I own an older Hitachi laptop SH> and can't really tell if ACPI will work on it. About the only thing SH> I've been successful at doing is leave APM support in the kernel and SH> now if I type 'shutdown -h now', the machine will actually turn itself SH> off. Before doing that to the kernel, the machine would stay on and SH> have to be manually turned off. I cannot seem to adiquately monitor SH> any APM events and apmd would consistantly cause my machine to lock up SH> anyway. I now run the machine without APMD and my machine never locks SH> up any more. I understand ACPI is much better than APM but I don't SH> think older machines' hardware supports it. Any good way to find out? SH> I realy would like a way to just close the lid for example and have SH> that auto-suspend or auto-standby the computer for me or simply have SH> it power itself down gracefully.