>I have speakup installed and working and I think my blind friend will be >most pleased! Congratulations. Getting things to work can be like wandering thru a lot of twisty little passages .. But remember not do do everything for your friend. Now that he has a talking system he can read docs and compile his own kernel, grab more packages from Debian mirrors, even learn to program. I noticed when I tell sighted friends that I'm playing with Linux and that I'm new they offer to do all sorts of things for me. What I want from my sighted friends is the same thing I want from my blind friends, a sense of community, a willingness to answer questions, and of course I want them to come back to me when they need help. But none of us want our sighted friends to take over and do it for us!! --Debee