I upgraded Linux testing today and now my man2html doesn't work with a 403 forbidden message and openwebmail won't let us login, so they've done something terrible with security. I'd wait a couple of days. When these problems go away I'll post unless someone tells me how to fix it before then. Rejean Proulx Visit my family at http://interfree.ca MSN is: rejp at rogers.com Ham License VA3REJ