here's the output from cdrecord when I attempt to do a dummy burn cdrecord: WARNING: Data may not fit on current disk. cdrecord: Notice: Overburning active. Trying to write more than the official disk capacity. Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 4 in dummy SAO mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting dummy write 0 seconds. Operation starts. cdrecord: WARNING: Drive returns wrong startsec (0) using -150 Track 01: Total bytes read/written: 751005696/751005696 (366702 sectors). cdrecord: Input/output error. flush cache: scsi sendcmd: no error CDB: 35 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) Sense Bytes: 71 00 03 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, deferred error, Segment 0 Sense Code: 0x0C Qual 0x00 (write error) Fru 0x0 Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) cmd finished after 10.493s timeout 200s Trouble flushing the cache does this mean it would not write properly or does it mean it wrote ok but providing me some warnings to take into consideration as in use at your own risk etc. thanks in advance. -- Shaun Oliver "I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person." email: shaun.oliver at optusnet.com.au WEB: http://blindman.homelinux.org/~blindman/ IRC: irc.awesomechat.net:6666 IRCNICK: blindman