Janina and all, It's a mixed experience. In some ways, it reminds me of the days before windows when I enjoyed my shell account and in some ways, it is tough because I'm using the shell through windows which is not really as fun as direct. I also had a brief experience with speak up a number of years ago and in some ways, in spite of its primitiveness at that time, it was a more pleasant experience than using windows for the shell. Of course, I didn't have sites like Bank Of America (catering to the rodent users) to work with then so this sheds some new experiential light. I have ben aware of the issues though for quite some time and this is what has motivated me at last now that I have the means to do it again to probe them directly. Some of what is somewhat confusing is that the button for log in seems to have the same lable as the entry field so it is easy to hit the rong number and could be more clearly marked. Using jaws and ie, we are told what is a button and what is an edit field an it looks like the word button or edit for instance is part of the lable. I knew it was not but the real experience makes this more evident. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 2:32 PM Subject: Re: the cat and the bank: So, David, do you find the cat broadening your view of things? David Poehlman writes: > From: "David Poehlman" <poehlman1 at comcast.net> > > Hi Raul and all, > > I was sitting on the screen that says if you are not from (insert name of > state here) in my case it was maryland, please choose another state. > > The interesting thing about this web site and many others is that when you > look at them with somethng other tham msie, you find all sorts of little > goodies. Maybe some of this stuff is there but for instance, there are it > seems several places where you can log into your nline account and if you > are not carefull, you will be cicked out because information or designation > is required before submission of log in. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <raul at asmodean.net> > To: "SPEAKUP Distribution List" <speakup at speech.braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 11:51 AM > Subject: Re: the cat and the bank: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > David. I've gotten invalid password but only if trying tolog into my > account from the main screen instead of the screen after you pick the > state your account is located in. > > - -- > Raul A. Gallegos - http://www.asmodean.net > All outgoing E-Mail is PGP-signed so that you know it really came from > me and not a virus. Public key at: http://asmodean.net/raul-pgp.asc > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFAI8YMas0vKmIuNMcRAr7tAKDEcmjmvllSE2rYixkvszcSkZOIwwCfSpVX > W95hyDNhm86KVQgad0fJlWg= > =F2V7 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka Email: janina at rednote.net Phone: +1 (202) 408-8175 Director, Technology Research and Development American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) http://www.afb.org Chair, Accessibility Work Group Free Standards Group http://a11y.org _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup at braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup