Ok, first I got alsa to work in kernel 2.4.25. I figured by doing that I eliminated trying to figure out extra problems that might have to do with the 2.6 kernel before I had alsa at least established as working on my system. But now i'm not sure what to do with 2.6. I am doing alsa as modules, though I have sound enabled in the kernel, not as a module. I recompiled the driver for 2.6; didn't know if i also had to redo the libs and/or utils. I can now load the modules manually and alsa works fine in 2.6.5, but i can't figure out how to get it into modprobe.conf. Using update-modules doesn't apparently add in the modutils/alsa file as in 2.4. I do have a /etc/modprobe.conf, which primarily has a line to include /lib/modules/modprobe.conf. Can somebody clarify these two issues for me: getting it to come up at boot in 2.6.5 (debian unstable) and whether or not I have to recompile and install the utils and libs--though everything seems to e working once I load manually. Thanks. -- Cheryl "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."