I already have it. thing is, why not add support for an app that already is rock solid ratner than use 2 or 3 different apps to achieve the same task I want to code into this existing one. another reason for my wanting to learn python is to add support for the display of the id3 tag from any mp3 a broadcaster plays from his winamp or equivelent to the 3 already available stats pages that get generated when supercast is run. -- Shaun Oliver "Becareful of the toes u step on today, they maybe connected to the ass you have to kiss tomorrow!" EMAIL: shaun_oliver at optusnet.com.au ICQ: 76958435 YAHOO: blindman01_2000 MSN: blindman_2001 at hotmail.com AIM: captain nemo 200 IRC: irc.awesomechat.net:6666 IRCNICK: blindman CHANNELS: #awesomeradio #mircpopup-magic #linux #help #ourworld #audiofile #mauisun