Hi all. Well, I've fixed my speakfreely problems. I have a dsl modem with a pppoe driver, that does pppoe and nat for me, which lets me get an address from it via dhcpcd. Well, it turned out that nat was causing my problems, so since this is the second major head ache I got because of using nat, the modem configuration is now changed, and I've got rp-pppoe installed. Thanks to those who offered suggestions. Greg -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager at EU.org