Hello again, well I eventually got it installed by typing rpm --force. I found modules for all the other synths but the apolo and I then found the C code for it. I've checked the apolo module and am now recompiling the kernel. after this, assuming there are no errors I'll try to use make install then modprobe speakup_apolo The speakup I'm using is 2.0 from cvs. I got it from: ftp.linux-speakup.org/pub/speakup/disks/fedora/1/kernel-2.4.22-2.nptlspk2.i6 86.rpm This matches the kernel information on the log in screen. I had always thought that the line for starting speakup was speakup_synth=APOLO when did this change or am I just messed up from all this typing. I have a feeling that I'm going to be undoing everything that I've done when someone tells me there is a much easier way. Oh, I got it back to run level 3 as well. yay! haha. Oh the reason that the kernel wouldn't install is I forgot to change from text to binary when copying it from my computer to the linux machine. when I tried to install it I was told that i was already there. I used the --force arguement to try it any way. Darragh
