And to add to the comments below, the Speakup package comes with a checkout script and all you needs do is run this as a simple shell script and it will go out and fetch the latest CVS version of Speakup for you and patch it in place. Actually, I'm not positive checkout comes inside the Speakup tar ball but it is surely available from the linux-speakup FTP site. When you run it, it prompts you for a "CVSROOT" ID. Just hit enter at this prompt for anonymous; then when prompted for a password, just type 'please' without the tick marks. Then it should do its magic for you:) Like was said below, the code can change one or more times per day thus can be very unstable at times. Use at your own risk, but the current feature set in CVS is usually worth it! On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 10:06:28PM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote: > The CVS version of Speakup is the version currently under development. > It is not available as a single tarball. In other words you don't > download speakup.tar.gz to get it. Instead, you use the "Concurrent > Versions System" CVS > > CVS is a way for different people in different parts of the world to all > work together on a single software project. CVS keeps track of who > checked in what lines of code. It is an environment for software > developers. > > Getting the CVS version of Speakup means getting the current state of > the software code. It will be different tomorrow, and again the next day > as new code is checked in. -- HolmesGrown Solutions The best solutions for the best price! http://ld.net/?holmesgrown