True, but this is just like anything else: subjective. I can not program with braille--I need speech. On Sat, 3 May 2003, Darrell Shandrow wrote: > Hi Igor, > > Though Braille isn't required for coding, it is extremely helpful for many > programmers, and may in fact be required for some. > > Darrell Shandrow - Shandrow Communications! > Technology consultant/instructor, network/systems administrator! > A+, CCNA, Network+! > Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i > All the best to coalition forces carrying out Operation Iraqi Freedom! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths at attbi.com> > To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 1:33 PM > Subject: Re: Unpopularity of Linux notetakers > > > > Hi Ann. Good point. I did in fact speak to one of their techies and even > > she looked at me like I was weird. And I didn't exactly demand it, perhaps > > my post implied that fact. What I mearly did was ask if they would supply > > one. And her response was that they didn't carry that due to its unpopular > > nature. And Ann you had some good suggestions. Perhaps I will look into > > Sighted providing a demo for them, because I think this is a very good > > aproach. I can also talk to them about the Elba, however I don't think > > this will do much in terms of influencing. I believe a demo is a better > > aproach to this problem. And in tterms of programming, she tried to tell > > me that I needed a braille display? And I kept telling her that I could > > read C just fine with speech. I am sure that people like Kirk, Adam, and > > Chuck can agree with me on this. Braille is not required to read code. > > However, setting your punctuation level to all is required. > > > > May you code in the power of the source, > > may the kernel, libraries, and utilities be with you, > > throughout all distributions until the end of the epoch. > > > > On Sat, 3 May 2003, Charles Crawford wrote: > > > > > Well, the head of the MCB tech program wrote two books on assistive > > > technology. If he is not up to speed onLinux, then it's his own problem. > > > Smile. > > > On Sat, 3 May 2003, Ann Parsons wrote: > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > Igor, you can't just demand that your rehab people get you an Elba. > > > > Yes, they don't know about Elba, and if you say the word, they look at > > > > you like you're weird. The thing you have to do, is not just say, "I > > > > would like an Elba." You have to do what I'm doing now, researching > > > > it! Talk to Pelisher at Sighted. See if he will do a demo for your > > > > rehab folks. they don't need to know as much about Linux, maybe, but > > > > what might impress them is: long battery life, thirty-six months > > > > warantee on braille cells, plays MP3 files *now* not next month's > > > > release, has network card as standard, not upon request, has USB and > > > > IR ports *now* not upon request, has larger capacity for storage, 5 > > > > gigs if you purchase that card/thinger, coming GPS same as for > > > > packmate, (only probably more stable because of the OS, this bit not > > > > relevant to them). Do your homework, guy, if you want an Elba, tell > > > > them why! Explain about your programming needs, (Elba has C compiler > > > > upon request). > > > > > > > > All they care about is if it's cost effective and if it will be used > > > > properly. Don't give 'em too much info, not unless you're talking to > > > > their techies, and then, give fullsome detail. > > > > > > > > >>>>> "David" == David Poehlman <poehlman1 at comcast.net> writes: > > > > > > > > David> I'd start with a note to sighted electronics and I would > > > > David> also copy my request to your congressperson. You should be > > > > David> able to get what you need not what they think or try to > > > > David> tell you that they need. The truth is that they don't > > > > David> understand linux and they are geared towards windows. We > > > > David> had the same trouble with jaws in maryland till I banged on > > > > David> them from my position in the tech act project, brought jaws > > > > David> in and trained them and began demonstrating it to various > > > > David> and assundry folk who started asking for it inside and > > > > David> outside the rehab center. > > > > > > > > Ah, David, just what did you mean here? Did you mean Linux or > > > > Window-Eyes or what? You mistyped and lost your point. <smile> > > > > > > > > Ann P. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > -- Charlie Crawford > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >
