Hi Igor, Though Braille isn't required for coding, it is extremely helpful for many programmers, and may in fact be required for some. Darrell Shandrow - Shandrow Communications! Technology consultant/instructor, network/systems administrator! A+, CCNA, Network+! Check out high quality telecommunications services at http://ld.net/?nu7i All the best to coalition forces carrying out Operation Iraqi Freedom! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@xxxxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2003 1:33 PM Subject: Re: Unpopularity of Linux notetakers > Hi Ann. Good point. I did in fact speak to one of their techies and even > she looked at me like I was weird. And I didn't exactly demand it, perhaps > my post implied that fact. What I mearly did was ask if they would supply > one. And her response was that they didn't carry that due to its unpopular > nature. And Ann you had some good suggestions. Perhaps I will look into > Sighted providing a demo for them, because I think this is a very good > aproach. I can also talk to them about the Elba, however I don't think > this will do much in terms of influencing. I believe a demo is a better > aproach to this problem. And in tterms of programming, she tried to tell > me that I needed a braille display? And I kept telling her that I could > read C just fine with speech. I am sure that people like Kirk, Adam, and > Chuck can agree with me on this. Braille is not required to read code. > However, setting your punctuation level to all is required. > > May you code in the power of the source, > may the kernel, libraries, and utilities be with you, > throughout all distributions until the end of the epoch. > > On Sat, 3 May 2003, Charles Crawford wrote: > > > Well, the head of the MCB tech program wrote two books on assistive > > technology. If he is not up to speed onLinux, then it's his own problem. > > Smile. > > On Sat, 3 May 2003, Ann Parsons wrote: > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > Igor, you can't just demand that your rehab people get you an Elba. > > > Yes, they don't know about Elba, and if you say the word, they look at > > > you like you're weird. The thing you have to do, is not just say, "I > > > would like an Elba." You have to do what I'm doing now, researching > > > it! Talk to Pelisher at Sighted. See if he will do a demo for your > > > rehab folks. they don't need to know as much about Linux, maybe, but > > > what might impress them is: long battery life, thirty-six months > > > warantee on braille cells, plays MP3 files *now* not next month's > > > release, has network card as standard, not upon request, has USB and > > > IR ports *now* not upon request, has larger capacity for storage, 5 > > > gigs if you purchase that card/thinger, coming GPS same as for > > > packmate, (only probably more stable because of the OS, this bit not > > > relevant to them). Do your homework, guy, if you want an Elba, tell > > > them why! Explain about your programming needs, (Elba has C compiler > > > upon request). > > > > > > All they care about is if it's cost effective and if it will be used > > > properly. Don't give 'em too much info, not unless you're talking to > > > their techies, and then, give fullsome detail. > > > > > > >>>>> "David" == David Poehlman <poehlman1 at comcast.net> writes: > > > > > > David> I'd start with a note to sighted electronics and I would > > > David> also copy my request to your congressperson. You should be > > > David> able to get what you need not what they think or try to > > > David> tell you that they need. The truth is that they don't > > > David> understand linux and they are geared towards windows. We > > > David> had the same trouble with jaws in maryland till I banged on > > > David> them from my position in the tech act project, brought jaws > > > David> in and trained them and began demonstrating it to various > > > David> and assundry folk who started asking for it inside and > > > David> outside the rehab center. > > > > > > Ah, David, just what did you mean here? Did you mean Linux or > > > Window-Eyes or what? You mistyped and lost your point. <smile> > > > > > > Ann P. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > -- Charlie Crawford > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
