Stay away from the high end chips, be it intel or amd. the 3.0 gig ones that are out now are around a thousand canuck loonies---do your own conversion. Something like a two to two point four gig is probably only a third the cost. Are the amd chips still running hotter the the intel---I guess i would be asking about the xp as compared to the p4. I once saw in an upgrade article that if you were going to upgrade, a good idea is to go to a system that is faster by a factor of three as changes in hardware happen so radicly. Who knows, just a couple thoughts. Scott Howell wrote: > Folks, > > Well it would seem that either my Athlon cpu or MSI board has punched > out. WHat I thought was an overheating issue seems to have progressed > into much uglier problems. I'll not bore you all with the details, but > the board gets power, but there is a chip near the power connector that > gets so damned hot it actually cna burn a finger. I can't recall this > chip getting so warm, but then that isn't saying much I can't recall if > it got that hot before. Yes stuff can get mighty hot on a board. > Ok here is the quesiton. I will have to likely replace the cpu or board > or perhaps both. Assuming the worst and I know some really hate and love > Intel and AMD, but for the money what would you suggest. > I know this will really open the door to debate and yes I can read lots > of reviews and such, but I'll ask in any case. > If I wanted to go with an intel processor, what would be the best board > for the money and if AMD the same question. > For the money and performance would an Intel be any better than an AMD? > I think the AMD chips are quite good myself, but the other question is > would it other than warranty reasons be better to go with retail box or > OEM. > Also is the retail cpus come with good heatsink/fans? Cooling is a > really big topic for me and I take a lot of time and effort to keep > things cooled well. I know these things need a lot of cooling as speed > increases and this has always been a concern for me. I do have the power > supply to handle either configuration. > Any thoughts appreciated. > > Scott > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup