On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, monte single wrote: > Frank c wrote in a dead box message yesterday. > "and a via c3 silent > computer with no > moving parts!" > > Is this something in development or is it on the shelf" It's available. The version with no moving parts is an older model based on a board with sdram and 533mhz cpu. I am not sure about the new board with the 600mhz processor. That may also not use a fan. However the 800mhz and up parts all seem to have fans on them. Check out www.newegg.com for such a board if you want one. Also www.tomshardware.com had a review of them. Finding a case for them seems to be harder and more expensive then it should be. The boards with cpu are $95/$180. All the micro itx cases I've seen have been $70 and up. The form factor is called micro itx and it is very small. There are some micro atx cases that you can mount a micro itx board in. They use standard atx power. -- Frank