Hi Ilko: You will want to get linux-2.5.70. Speakup will patch cleanly against that and there have been so many changes to the console code that you do not want to try using something from the transition period. So try linux-2.5.70 and the cvs version of speakup. I believe I have the arm support patched in but it hasn't been tested so that would be good. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061