Hi Jhon, Thanks for the info. I hope i have turned off HTML for this list under adding new contact in OE 5.5. I know Zipspeak is not maintained but since it can still be downloaded i guess it can still be used? I have not heared of either of the two you mentioned. I liked zipspeak as i did not have to repartition my hard drive on my only working computer. Thought i would try the mailing list first, i have had a look at the reflector home page and it says the most recent version is the first one in a while that is again compatible with Windows to Linux systems. I notice on the Speakup web site there are two different address to point the reflector to, is there a better one to use? Espsherly since speakfreely should work with both? Thanks very much, Nigel ----- Original Message ----- From: "John covici" <covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 11:11 AM Subject: SpeakUp Newbie > Well, as of now, you will need a piece of hardware -- this may > change, but not quickly. > > It will cost you some significant money -- the Lighttalk is going to > be in the $300 u.s. range -- other things are more expensive unless > you can get them used. > > zipspeak is no longer being maintained, so that is no longer an > option. > > If you just want to play, there are two linux distributions on a cd > which talk, which are both derivations of knoppix. To do those, you > would have to download them and burn the cds yourself. > > One is based on speakup which not in its final location at > ftp.braille.uwo.ca and the other one is based on emacspeak which is > at http://oralux.org . > > Also, I highly recomend you get speakfreely and get on the reflector > and ask there -- you will find people on there who will give you a > few pointers along this road. > > I hope some of these help you. > > P.S. The from: line does point back to the person, but if you notice > there is a reply which points back to the list. Also, if you could > turn off your html, this would be helpful on this list. > > > on Saturday 07/05/2003 Stoppard(stoppard at ntlworld.com) wrote > > Hi all, > > I am new to this list so please go easy on me. After reading some of the posts i feel like i have jumped into an Olympic size swimming pool. > > -- > John Covici > covici at ccs.covici.com > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup