Well, as of now, you will need a piece of hardware -- this may change, but not quickly. It will cost you some significant money -- the Lighttalk is going to be in the $300 u.s. range -- other things are more expensive unless you can get them used. zipspeak is no longer being maintained, so that is no longer an option. If you just want to play, there are two linux distributions on a cd which talk, which are both derivations of knoppix. To do those, you would have to download them and burn the cds yourself. One is based on speakup which not in its final location at ftp.braille.uwo.ca and the other one is based on emacspeak which is at http://oralux.org . Also, I highly recomend you get speakfreely and get on the reflector and ask there -- you will find people on there who will give you a few pointers along this road. I hope some of these help you. P.S. The from: line does point back to the person, but if you notice there is a reply which points back to the list. Also, if you could turn off your html, this would be helpful on this list. on Saturday 07/05/2003 Stoppard(stoppard at ntlworld.com) wrote > Hi all, > I am new to this list so please go easy on me. After reading some of the posts i feel like i have jumped into an Olympic size swimming pool. -- John Covici covici at ccs.covici.com