ok people I ain't tested this solution yet but I'd like people who have to write back and let me know what they think. all this started because of some router issues. why not download and install and try smoothwall. http://www.smoothwall.org as far as I am aware, is is a cheap way of performing routing tasks without forking out the thousands of dollars for a router. this is because the majorly stripped down version of linux provides you with routing/firewalling/nat capabilities with support for most ethernet nics and modems around today. and all configureable via a browser interface. the distributers decided that thousands of dollars was far too much to spend on investing in a router and this little gem makes any pc become the equivelent of that expensive router. if anyone has used or uses smoothwall, let me know how you found it. -- Shaun Oliver "Becareful of the toes u step on today, they maybe connected to the ass you have to kiss tomorrow!" EMAIL: shaun_oliver at optusnet.com.au ICQ: 76958435 YAHOO: blindman01_2000 MSN: blindman_2001 at hotmail.com AIM: captain nemo 200 IRC: irc.awesomechat.net:6666 IRCNICK: blindman CHANNELS: #awesomeradio #mircpopup-magic #linux #help #ourworld #audiofile #mauisun