Yea, it ain't available yet. I asked Verizon about it a week or so ago and the latest model they had ever heard of was the 8900 & 8600; I saw an 8600 and I found the buttons alone to be deplorable! let alone not being accessible. I go to tthe audiovox website just yesterday and the model doesn't exist on their search engine. I just hate non disclosure agreements - they are anti competetive. I mean you signed an aggreement not to reveal any more about it but yet the damn thing isn't even out there. You couldn't even find it with your sources and/or connections. It's just a shame people, that is, companies, not you, have to be so secretive about their upcoming innovations when they should be the norm for all products. I don't know if you saw any prototypes or what but I hope they were good. Some of us get to be a bit synical about things like this. How many times over the years have I heard about some upcoming trick or gadget for accessibility and have it never come to pass? I lost count so until I can see the real thing or at least some documentation from the provider it is really being worked on and some reasonable expected dates, I tend to call it vaporware. It may really be impatience on my part but I'm not sure what else to feel or do. On Sat, Dec 27, 2003 at 08:55:09AM -0500, Janina Sajka wrote: > I could tell you things, but I can't because of a piece of paper we > signed this past year. > > What I can tell you is that we looked hard for this unit around > Washington, DC and on the net the other week and didn't find it. I > expect we'll look again in early January. > > So, can you read between the lines? -- HolmesGrown Solutions The best solutions for the best price! http://ld.net/?holmesgrown