No, DSL service involves routers and usually has you sharing one somewhere before you get to your ISP. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 12:05 PM Subject: Re: Servers and Tos > That's what I was getting at, I think you and Alex summarized things > pretty well. On the other end of the spectrum, dsl is a direct and > dedicated connection between you and your ISP (well, your phone > company's dslam actually), and there is nobody else between you and > your ISP. > > Greg > > > On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 04:16:24AM +1100, Shaun Oliver wrote: > > at the risk of being helpful, Gregory Nowak delivered up the following on Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 11:02:18AM -0600, > > > > and, I totally agree, any ISP that gives you lightening fast speeds, and doesn't think your going to run servers is totally moronic, > > > > and to enforce that, is beyond moronic, and totally unfair. > > > > > > If you would have said that about dsl, I would totally agree with > > > you. However, you need to keep in mind the differences between dsl and > > > cable connections. Yes, they both give you fast speeds, but they don't > > > work the same way, just as a car and train can get you somewhere fast, > > > but there are differences of course between how a car and train work. > > > > > > So, when cable ISPs don't allow their users to run servers, I can > > > totally see where the ISP is coming from. > > > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, with your cable provider, if I'm not mistaken, you're sharing that > > bandwidth with others on your subnet. > > wihch is more than likely those in the same suburb as you with cable > > connection as well. > > the isp isn't going to give this bandwidth up freely because they don't > > just pay for a monthly block. they're paying for every little bit of > > bandwidth you use up and if you're going to sit there with a home > > service and run wtf you like on it, you're a fool. > > you know the tos, you know the consequences of your actions. > > > > think for starters about the people that have to share that bandwidth > > with you. if you're always hogging it, your isp is well within their > > rights to cut you off and take any action they deme appropriate as set > > forth in the tos. > > > > think about what you're doing and if you want to run servers, be > > prepared to pay for the bandwidth and I mean per megabyte not this > > monthly block business. > > > > > > > > -- > > Shaun Oliver > > > > > > "I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person." > > email: shaun_oliver at optusnet.com.au > > WEB: http://blindman.homelinux.org/ > > IRC: irc.awesomechat.net:6666 > > IRCNICK: blindman > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager at EU.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >
