That's one thing I really love about some Distros of Linux, talking installations. You just cant beet that indipendance. I'll go for slackware or Debian but again, on no site has it said that they are easy for beginners to pick up. On the other hand Mandrake and SuSE are from what I've read renound for it. I'm not mad about not having an similar method for installing applications to RPM on Slackware, Debian has something which I believe is similar to Red hat, Red hat 9 doesn't have gnome 2.4 or Gnopernicus pree-configured What's annoying me isn't finding a distribution really. Its the fact that Fedora includes what I want but I'm hearing that I should keep away from it for a while until everything has been implimented and all the bugs have been ireoned out. People are also telling me that its not a very newby friendly distribution. The same people are persistantly telling me to move to mandrake or SuSE, If I have to tell them once more that speakup isn't available for it I'll go nuts. Sorry for the quick rant, I just wanted people to know why I'm following this line of questioning. Oh, that's an interesting one. What's harder, making speakup run on Mandrake or SuSe or getting Gnome and Gnopernicus running on another system which may or may not have an RPM based installation method. Darragh ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------ Why do we spend more time troubleshooting our systems than actually using them? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@xxxxxxx> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup at braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 12:01 AM Subject: Re: fedora > slackware has it built into it's cd set. it's nice to be able to have > a speakup install off a stock slackware disk. > On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at > 05:47:52PM -0600, Deedra Waters wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > I don't think that mandrake has speakup enabled in it, but I could be wrong. Again, the distros that I know of with speakup enabled are debian, redhat, fedora, slackware, and gentoo. > > > > As for those that have it actually built into the cd itself, redhat and fedora do, as do debian and gentoo. gentoo's is still in the experimental stage, but will probably go stable soon. I'm working with the guy ti get out the last of the bugs. I'm not sure if slackware has it built into their cd sets honestly. > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Darragh wrote: > > > > > Are the only distributions supported though's which are on the ftp site > > > ftp.linux-speakup.org ? > > > > > > I think I understand where this man is coming from. H'es trying to find a > > > distrobution which is easy to use for beginners and which offers as much > > > technical support as possible. I know he's a distributor of a lot of > > > distributions here so He's probably trying to make a sale. However, He > > > definitly knows more than me about Linux so I'll keep in mind his > > > suggestions. > > > > > > I'll ask one more time, is mandrake speakup enabled? > > > > > > I know emacspeak is there but speakup is easier to work with for me at the > > > moment. Until I learn how to set up emacspeak and viavoice. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > Darragh > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > - -- > > Freenode staff member: dmwaters at freenode.net , http://www.freenode.net > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) > > > > iD8DBQE/zSSuU5AGPOTGNc8RAnptAJ0Z9DATpzK5mbPo6bMVJ6khF2XQbwCghtVm > > vcnHAlVsGIIMWGdhxnfR0/4= > > =bpjv > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > Always borrow money from a pessimist; he doesn't expect to be paid > back. > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup