Well geez seems in your message you've named most all the big distros, but you forgot Debian. WHy don't you just ignore this certain comeone and use what works for you. Ay there's plenty of stuff that is beta or whatever, but thus far I havent' any real complaints with Fedora at all. I didn't even have any real complaints with Debian's Sid distro eithe. Its all a matter of what you want to do. My opinion of course. Scott