Okay, you say you have speakup cvs as of today. What time today? This is a very fast moving target and I believe we've checked in at least five times so far today. I will look into the devfs problem. Unfortunately, I don't remember what I did that last time this happened to fix it. Did you get any warnings from the devfs code? I bet your problem with loading modules is the uart. You have not been on the reflector to be in the know how this stuff is all playing out. If the system is booted without a serial synth builtin then you need to take the uart away from the kernel before trying to load a serial synth driver. Here is the proper incantation and modprobe is not! part of it. setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none echo dectlk >/proc/speakup/synth_name Of course your values will very. We will automagically steel the uart away from the system at some point in the future but that isn't important right now. As of this afternoon none of the beta testers have been able to actually break the module switching. If you can then we want to know about it with logs. If you don't have logs it won't do us any good. I am aware of the characters array bug and it is on my list. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk at braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061