If you installed everything, the roaring penguin stuff should be on your system. You need to run pppoe-conf first then adsl-start and good luck. Verizon.net is loosing lots of customers in the St. Mary's county area of Maryland because their network simply doesn't work. A lady who works across the hall from me and is a confirmed gui user used the windows software at home and couldn't get verizon dsl to work either, so it's not just me and it''s not linux either. -- Jude <dashielljt(at)gmpexpress-dot-net>