Ari!!! Looking more closely at this output I see that "libsafe" is still plaguing me. I removed that package and eliminated the environment variable that sets it up and have rebooted since then, but the thing is still executing!!! I will hunt it down and destroy it!!! -- The Moon is Waxing Gibbous (82% of Full) So visit me at http://www.valstar.net/~hallenbeck