Hi Ari, No other time utilities are running. I have added a "netdate" command to my ip-up script to get the current time from the internet, but it only runs once and seems okay. Itt has been there for over a year now. I just ran "strace hwclock -w" again redirecting output to a file, and after waiting for 15 seconds I hit control-C and the resulting file was 25 MB long. I em inserting the last 21 lines of that file in the hope that you or someone will be able to spot something familiar. I am way over my head on this one. ---------- send(3, "<82>Oct 16 12:24:52 libsafe.so[3"..., 52, 0) = 52 rt_sigaction(SIGPIPE, {SIG_DFL}, NULL, 8) = 0 time([1034785492]) = 1034785492 getpid() = 399 rt_sigaction(SIGPIPE, {0x400fa78c, [], 0x4000000}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0 send(3, "<82>Oct 16 12:24:52 libsafe.so[3"..., 52, 0) = 52 rt_sigaction(SIGPIPE, {SIG_DFL}, NULL, 8) = 0 time([1034785492]) = 1034785492 getpid() = 399 rt_sigaction(SIGPIPE, {0x400fa78c, [], 0x4000000}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0 send(3, "<82>Oct 16 12:24:52 libsafe.so[3"..., 52, 0) = 52 rt_sigaction(SIGPIPE, {SIG_DFL}, NULL, 8) = 0 time([1034785492]) = 1034785492 getpid() = 399 rt_sigaction(SIGPIPE, {0x400fa78c, [], 0x4000000}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0 send(3, "<82>Oct 16 12:24:52 libsafe.so[3"..., 52, 0) = 52 rt_sigaction(SIGPIPE, {SIG_DFL}, NULL, 8) = 0 time([1034785492]) = 1034785492 getpid() = 399 rt_sigaction(SIGPIPE, {0x400fa78c, [], 0x4000000}, {SIG_DFL}, 8) = 0 send(3, "<82>Oct 16 12:24:52 libsafe.so[3"..., 52, 0) = 52 ---------- Thanks for your help and suggestions Chuck -- The Moon is Waxing Gibbous (82% of Full) So visit me at http://www.valstar.net/~hallenbeck