Greg, That very well could be the problem. I am running bind 8.something on my old box and bind 9 on the new box. I simply used the same configuration file with a few minor changes to paths etc. Being that I can't contact any root servers, that probably would indicate there being some problem with the configuration. What is interesting is that at one point it seem to work, but to be honest I haven't absolutely any clue what would have broken in such short order. I think what compounds the problem is I can't think of anything to ping beyond my own network just to be sure my packets are flowing as they should be. Yes, I can use netwatch, but it tends to be a bit to verbose just to get some simple info. I used to be able to ping the ISP's dns server, but guess they decided to block pings now.<grin> Tnx will have to keep hacking this problem.