ok, remove the ssl directives from the unrealircd.conf altogether especially if you don't need them. anything you don't need, remove it. and also another good thing to do is have configurations like o-lines, server links, etc in different config files and have them included in the main config file with an include statemant. hth -- Shaun Oliver It's multiple choice time... What is FORTRAN? a: Between thre and fiv tran. b: What two computers engage in before they interface. c: Ridiculous.