Hi: I haven't seen anything mentioned one way or the other about Phillips products. People have been at companies for some time about including vorbis in portable players. Now that Vorbis 1.0 is out, and particularly now that Tremor has been released as free software, there seems to be some interest from hardware manufacturers. Many hardware players use fixed point processors (i.e. they don't do floating point very well). the reference vorbis decoder uses a lot of floating point mathematics to do its job. The xiph people have written a fixed-point decoder code named Tremor which they decided to make opensource about a month ago. This means that all it will need for hardware manufacturers to include vorbis support in their player is some time porting and fine-tuning the code to work with their player. No patent or royalty fees for use of Vorbis, and no licensing fees for the decoder code. And the xiph people are ready and willing to help with implementation. So having said all that, get in touch with Phillips or any other hardware manufacturer you want and tell them you want Vorbis support in their player and, if relevant, you won't buy one until it has it. Also pass on this URL which you may also want to read: http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/hardware.html Geoff. -- Geoff Shang <gshang at uq.net.au> ICQ number 43634701 Make sure your E-mail can be read by everyone! http://www.betips.net/etc/evilmail.html Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
