Yea, this is really more of a question to the OGG/Vorbis folks, but I wonder if there is any flash updates or something to make a Phylips Expanium MP3 CD player OGG/Vorbis compatible? I think some of these players have some software update functionality; don't know about the Phylips modle. On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 10:22:34AM +1000, Aaron Howell wrote: > Its up to each individual Linux distribution as to how they respond to the changes to FHG's licensing. > My understanding of it is that the license fees need to be paid on use, not distribution. > The question then comes back to the policies of the different distribution manufacturers. > Some distributors like Debian insist that everything in their main distribution be DFSG complient > (that is free for both commercial and non commercial use). > In their case, they will most likely respond by moving all their mp3 players out into non-free and letting the users decide whether to pay the license fees or not. > In the case of Redhat they've decided to deal with it by removing mp3 altogether. > other distributions will respond differently based on their licensing policy. > FHG really though is making the same mistake Unisys did with GIF, in that they released it for free use then tried to charge a licensing fee. > Everyone laughed at them, and all it achieved was to hasten the adoption of jpeg and png as web standards (you see very few gifs out there these days). > The same will happen to mp3, this move will hasten the adoption of ogg vorbis which is a superior format anyway, > and mp3 will gradually die off. (the big blow will come when players like Winamp and MS Media Player drop support for mp3, > and lets face it, Microsoft has been wanting to do that for ages, plus handheld players will move to either WMA or OGG format). > So, IMHO not supporting mp3 is no more of a loss than not supporting gif, when there are other just as useful standards out there, > and FHG is shooting itself in the foot. > Regards > Aaron > On Mon, Oct 07, 2002 at 05:52:24PM -0500, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > Why is it that slackware still offers mp3 support. > > Aren't they comercial too? > > And how does a volenteer distro like debian fit into all of this? > > > > Greg > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup at braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html