Hi: mnt/cdrom isn't a device name, it's a mountpoint. I guess it's defined in /etc/fstab as I described in my message. As for not needing to be root to mount filesystems ... hmmm. interesting. Not how I'd run a system, but hey. It's your system. My understanding was that this was a requirement. Guess it's not, as unsafe as it might be. Geoff. -- Geoff Shang <gshang at uq.net.au> ICQ number 43634701 Make sure your E-mail can be read by everyone! http://www.betips.net/etc/evilmail.html Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html